Damn, I already forgot that! You are right! It's so hard to be sarcastic these days, because reality overtakes sarcasm just too often!Originally Posted by Kagman
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Damn, I already forgot that! You are right! It's so hard to be sarcastic these days, because reality overtakes sarcasm just too often!
Sadly, I think you are right. I wish I knew an answer, but I don't. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely against the legalization of drugs, especially the stuff that makes people highly addictive, and/or destroys them within no time. But I don't think the problem can be solved outside of education. And since our dimwit politicians, journalists and teachers preach "legalize drugs" day in, day out, the problem won't go away!
I was thinking about this issue, and I came with a possible idea to control the niggers: remember how there used to be opium dens where people used to smoke opium and get wasted all day long?
Imagine if we had fentanyl dens for niggers, where they could get the stuff for free, but they could only consume the stuff in the dens, and were required to get injected with narcan before leaving the premises. With a kilo of fentanyl, they could dilute the stuff until it was roughly equivalent to opium, and they would have enough to keep the niggers sedated 24/7, 365 days a year. The niggers would spend all of their time getting high, but humans wouldn't have to deal with them or even see them.
Also, fentanyl is different than opium in that the high supposedly dissipates much faster than the natural stuff, so the addicted niggers will have a very difficult time staying away from the dens for any significant amount of time.
As for weed... Well, I'll sometimes eat a 10mg edible with Aleve when my back starts acting up. It's cheaper than most drugs, legal (in Arizona), and it makes the pain go away. But Aleve works well enough for the most part without the weed. I just save the marijuana for when the pain reaches 11 on a scale of 1 to 10. The high is just a bonus in that it distracts me enough to stop thinking of other ways to end the pain.
It's not a perfect solution, but it's probably better than becoming an opiate addict. I've seen other veterans go down that road... *shudders*
Nope.
I will say this much on the subject:
As a Constitutionalist Libertarian, I believe it's your God given right to do as you choose and make your own decisions, health or otherwise. This includes growing and using your own medications like any other food or product for your own personal use free from any government interference, control or taxation.
I suffer from middle age and a lack of foresight in my younger days - some recreational and some service related. I have torn rotator cuffs in both shoulders, a bad back, bum knee and various other issues including severe migraines and tinnitus. Every day is a pain somewhere and I already take the max recommended of OTC pain relief meds on most days. Despite past prescriptions, I refuse to take anything stronger due to the inherent addiction risk.
I will admit that I have tried both CBD and prescription marijuana to see if either would help. CBD does indeed help with the pain and seems to help with the inflammation somewhat. CBD oil does NOT carry THC - the active ingredient that gives marijuana its "high" feeling.
As far as marijuana being helpful, the short answer is yes, it does - more than anything else I've ever been prescribed or taken OTC including CBD. There is, however a serious drawback to this approach. The whole reason I tried it was for relief from chronic pain and for improved physical mobility when nothing else worked. The catch 22 is that this treatment is pointless if it makes you so relaxed and feeling so pain-free that you don't care if you get anything done much less done right. While the cure is not worse than the disease, the cost outweigh the benefits if you need to do anything time critical or mentally taxing.
CBD oil is more expensive and not as effective as pot for pain. It is also hit or miss and doesn't always work if the pain is severe. Medical pot is cheaper and works better but you might as well be stuffing your head with cotton balls. That's how it left me feeling so for now, I just choose to suffer quietly and deal with it.
Our founding fathers, the Native Americans and ancient Hebrews all grew, smoked and consumed it as well and don't let anyone tell you different. So as far as it being a nigger drug, any drug can be a nigger drug. Niggers huff jenkem FFS!
tweakstick \ˈtwēkˈstik\ 1: A small plastic calibration tool, used for making adjustments on electrical or mechanical equipment. 2: A large wooden calibration tool, used for making adjustments on antiquated farm equipment.
The time to legalize drugs ended the moment we made them illegal. Pharmaceutical companies and drug cartels aren't really that different if you stop and think about it. Both maximize profits by creating a returning customer base. If everyone took care of themselves to begin with, marijuana would still be 7% THC, crack would have never been invented, people wouldn't be dying from the coof vaccine... The list of examples and similarities is endless.
Even with alcohol, there is no telling how much smaller organized crime would be right now if prohibition had never been passed. No-one would even know who the Kennedy's were.
As far as education, just ask any kid who went through D.A.R.E training and they will tell you, it just made them want to try drugs. Both of my kids have told me as much as well as every kid in my family.
There is no answer now. Pandora's box was opened and there's not a damn thing you can do about it now.
tweakstick \ˈtwēkˈstik\ 1: A small plastic calibration tool, used for making adjustments on electrical or mechanical equipment. 2: A large wooden calibration tool, used for making adjustments on antiquated farm equipment.
I agree in general, but I have two thoughts: For one, I think there is a difference between medical use, and recreational use. And second, we are living together with other people. Hence I can see that rules are probably needed as long as people are unwilling / unable to stay within their boundaries.
I personally don't care what people do in their private time, and government definitively shouldn't interfere here. But I do care when people e.g. drive when drunk/high etc. To my mind the whole topic is mainly a problem of education, but I admit that I could be completely wrong here (genetic predispositions?).
Considering of what you said about the right to grow your own food and medications I think you are absolutely right! What do you think of this simple and fair (at least at first sight) solution: As long as you are able to produce the stuff on your own, everything is allowed. But it's not allowed to sell it when it has the potential to endanger someone. Apart from minors, alcohol & marijuana seem to be relatively harmless (speaking of moderate doses of course), and when you have to grow it on your own, that automatically limits the available amount as well. The people who have the knowledge to produce the more complicated synthetic stuff that does not simply grow on the field should have enough brains to know what they can bear.
My libertarian philosophy still applies as follows:
We have always had laws against drunk/impaired driving. This does not end with libertarianism. You have the right to get drunk and blow your hand off with fireworks but that doesn't excuse you when you burn your neighbor's house down. You have just crossed the line between your freedoms and my property. Don't expect me to sew your hand back on, either or pay to for the hospital stay.
No-one should tell me who I can barter with or sell my crops to as long as it is between myself and another adult. Whether or not I give a bushel of tomatoes or a bag of pot to an adult neighbor in exchange for his beer or a beef shoulder is between the two of us. If I trade my tractor to a friend for his horses, that's our business. Since public market trading for profit using legal tender money is taxable, then and only then does this become the business of the government and give them control over anyone's business. They do print the money so you give them that option when you choose that route. As adults, it is our responsibility to take reasonable means to ensure that our property is not used for evil purposes.
A car, truck, tractor, gun, ammunition, beer and the marijuana all have the potential to kill someone. Killing is a criminal act. No one should hold Ford responsible when some nigger gets drunk and high as balls then decides to use his gun and truck to rob a bank, run from the police, and crash into a school bus.
As far as the more complicated chemicals, I'm not saying we should all go breaking bad here. Obviously, lines have to be drawn and they have been complicated by the market's pursuit of street drug profits since the war on drugs began. It should rightly be called the war on behavior and it was brought about due to weak individuals whose refusal to self discipline and avoid addictive bad behaviors brought us all the loss of liberties we previously enjoyed. Most people don't realize how post revolution China solved the opium den problem. Dealers were executed immediately. Free rehab programs were offered to everyone during a grace period. If you got caught after that, you were executed as well. Talk about the other end of the spectrum, huh...
The thing about pure libertarian governing is that it only works as our Constitution designed it to work with a certain peculiar people.
tweakstick \ˈtwēkˈstik\ 1: A small plastic calibration tool, used for making adjustments on electrical or mechanical equipment. 2: A large wooden calibration tool, used for making adjustments on antiquated farm equipment.
Hi tweakstick,My libertarian philosophy still applies as follows:
We have always had laws against drunk/impaired driving. This does not end with libertarianism. You have the right to get drunk and blow your hand off with fireworks but that doesn't excuse you when you burn your neighbor's house down. You have just crossed the line between your freedoms and my property. Don't expect me to sew your hand back on, either or pay to for the hospital stay.
No-one should tell me who I can barter with or sell my crops to as long as it is between myself and another adult. Whether or not I give a bushel of tomatoes or a bag of pot to an adult neighbor in exchange for his beer or a beef shoulder is between the two of us. If I trade my tractor to a friend for his horses, that's our business. Since public market trading for profit using legal tender money is taxable, then and only then does this become the business of the government and give them control over anyone's business. They do print the money so you give them that option when you choose that route. As adults, it is our responsibility to take reasonable means to ensure that our property is not used for evil purposes.
A car, truck, tractor, gun, ammunition, beer and the marijuana all have the potential to kill someone. Killing is a criminal act. No one should hold Ford responsible when some nigger gets drunk and high as balls then decides to use his gun and truck to rob a bank, run from the police, and crash into a school bus.
As far as the more complicated chemicals, I'm not saying we should all go breaking bad here. Obviously, lines have to be drawn and they have been complicated by the market's pursuit of street drug profits since the war on drugs began. It should rightly be called the war on behavior and it was brought about due to weak individuals whose refusal to self discipline and avoid addictive bad behaviors brought us all the loss of liberties we previously enjoyed. Most people don't realize how post revolution China solved the opium den problem. Dealers were executed immediately. Free rehab programs were offered to everyone during a grace period. If you got caught after that, you were executed as well. Talk about the other end of the spectrum, huh...
The thing about pure libertarian governing is that it only works as our Constitution designed it to work with a certain peculiar people.
I have to apologize here: I somehow missed your first answer (This one: "As far as education, just ask any kid who went through D.A.R.E training and they will tell you, it just made them want to try drugs.").
Had I read it before I'd noticed that I probably used the wrong expression: I said "education", but it seems that in English that is more of a thing that happens at school, right? Because of what I meant to say is similar to what the picture you posted (the John Adams citation) says: I meant the values&upbringing of your parents, and the society you happen to grow up in. Is there a word for that in English? (In German there are different words for school/university education, and education at home, from parents/family/society/church/values).
So if I understood you right, we absolutely agree here!
Concerning your libertarian philosophy: You are right, that would be the ideal situation. My suggestion didn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to sell your crops, but that I think that there should be rules for certain things. E.g. you can (of course) sell crops, but not the alcohol you make out of it (that special case just as an example).
Because sadly I don't think that a society completely without rules would work, that probably would result in a dictatorship of the strongest or most ruthless people. All in all, it's a difficult topic. E.g. I don't want to pay for other peoples stupidity, but at the same time I don't want other people to interfere my business as well. But at the moment, there is definitely way too much government (and way too many liberals & niggers that live from other peoples money).
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